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作者: liangmo123    時間: 2020-4-3 03:27 PM     標題: 法蘭西島大區主席:美國的確搶購中國口罩 但我們選的貨到付款[法國RFI]2020-04-02

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美國搶購中國口罩繼續發酵:法蘭西島大區主席稱美國的確有高價買走法國認准的口罩的現象。


法國和美國之間搶訂中國口罩的紛爭仍在繼續。繼本周法國大東區和普羅旺斯-阿爾卑斯藍色海岸大區主席抱怨美國用現金在停機坪上高價買走法國訂的中國口罩后,法蘭西島大區主席瓦萊麗-佩克萊斯在4月2日星期四也表示,的確有中國的口罩“逃過”法國訂購,飛向同樣急缺口罩的美國。

佩克萊斯在LCI的一檔電視節目當中表示,“美國出了高價,買走了法國此前已經確定的一批貨品”,但“經濟上沒有損失,因為法方從來沒有提前付款,這批貨只是從法方眼前溜走了,我們沒能拿到這批貨,我們沒能下單”。佩克萊斯具体解釋道:“我們選擇的是貨到付款,因為我們想先看到口罩再說;而美國人則是先付了現金,但沒有看口罩如何。對于那些趁著全世界都陷入麻煩而做生意的人來說,這的確很具有吸引力”。

佩克萊斯表示,“政府10天前剛剛允許各大區訂購口罩,之后我們就到處‘尋寶’,尋找這些可以救命的口罩”。雖然承認美國的確有迅速買走中國口罩的現象,但佩克萊斯表示,“法國和中國企業之間有著安全的渠道,尤其是和法蘭西島大區,中方定期向法蘭西島大區輸送貨品,每周都有”。她還解釋道,“法蘭西島大區和亞裔族群有著非常强的紐帶,法蘭西島大區擁有很大規模的法-中群体,正是多虧他們,我們才保證了這些供應”。
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中國口罩被搶著買的現實,不是靠個別黨工發黑文就能改變的
另外轉自法國國際廣播電台RFI ,別說什麼五毛文轉移視線

法國人貨到付款,美國人高額搶購,大陸一下子賺了兩筆生意

作者: bloodsword    時間: 2020-4-3 03:51 PM

然後到貨發現規格不合標準,要求中國退換
作者: sppgi9999    時間: 2020-4-3 07:19 PM

現在開始搶口罩大戰了
作者: xeno-2007    時間: 2020-4-3 07:46 PM

bloodsword 發表於 2020-4-3 03:51 PM
然後到貨發現規格不合標準,要求中國退換

有歐美無良奸商從中國大陸的鄉下小廠買了工業防塵口罩,
運到自己國家後,再自行更換外觀包裝,偽造成高規格醫用口罩,高價出售給醫院。
但綠傳媒不報導事情始末真相,只說買了中國口罩的人投訴質素差,是惡意詐騙無知鄉民。

美國紐約時間 2020年4月早上
美國已確認感染人數:245573


作者: richgod    時間: 2020-4-3 09:18 PM

要買大陸製的口罩真的要有非常強的心臟,說不定拿到手的都是劣質品!希望美國之後不要後悔地退貨!
作者: liangmo123    時間: 2020-4-4 03:15 AM

richgod 發表於 2020-4-3 09:18 PM
要買大陸製的口罩真的要有非常強的心臟,說不定拿到手的都是劣質品!希望美國之後不要後悔地退貨! ...

這種高價現金直接買的肯定是沒什麼合同的,也不會有退貨
不過據報道這種事情,美國不是第一次做了 ,那麼他們之前用的買到用的口罩應該挺好的
作者: zxcvy    時間: 2020-4-4 03:32 AM

雖然中國口罩有劣質品的風險,不過中國好歹是最大口罩生產國,也難怪一堆人明知道可能有問題還是硬著頭皮買下去
這時就是目前第二大生產國台灣的機會了!
作者: DavidWou    時間: 2020-4-4 05:05 AM

大陸出的貨,真的得先檢驗再用。沒拿到不一定是壞事。
作者: e19741208    時間: 2020-4-4 05:44 AM

所以法國這是在對民眾說 我們沒有損失 而且我們還買得到口罩 被美國搶購走沒關係?
作者: t8751232    時間: 2020-4-4 05:56 AM

一手交錢一手交貨 很多網路口罩一個50還不跟你說是不是醫療用
作者: zogol    時間: 2020-4-4 08:28 AM

怎麼不跟台灣買呢?台灣人民都乖乖排隊,就是要拿口罩來做人情的ZZZ
作者: xeno-2007    時間: 2020-4-4 08:44 AM

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加拿大總理 Trudeau 警告 美國總統 Trump,不要攔途截劫本該運到加拿大的防疫口罩。
Trump 為了美國自身利益,甚麼盟友都可以拋棄!
法、德、英.....等等都給Trump打劫過了!

原文:

Trudeau warns U.S. against denying exports of medical supplies to Canada

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Friday it would be a "mistake" for the U.S. to limit exports of medical supplies to Canada in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

His comments came hours after Minnesota manufacturing giant 3M said it has received a request from the Trump administration to stop exporting N95 respirators to Canada and Latin America as demand grows in the U.S.

Trudeau said his government is working to impress upon the U.S. administration that essential supplies and medical professionals move in both directions across the border. “These are things that Americans rely on and it would be a mistake to create blockages or reduce the amount of back-and-forth trade of essential goods and services, including medical goods, across our border,” he said.

The prime minister said he remains confident that Canada will receive the equipment it needs to fight the coronavirus. He did not say whether he planned to speak with President Donald Trump about the issue, but pointed to a statement from 3M that warns against limiting exports. “3M has indicated that it understands how important it is to continue to deliver on orders to places like Canada," he said.

In a news release Friday morning, the company said there are "significant humanitarian implications of ceasing respirator supplies to healthcare workers in Canada and Latin America, where we are a critical supplier of respirators."

3M argued that halting exports would cause other countries to retaliate and cease exports to the U.S., leading to an overall decrease in the number of respirators available in the U.S. “That is the opposite of what we and the administration, on behalf of the American people, both seek,” the statement says.

In a press conference after Trudeau's briefing, Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the government is "just going to pull out all the stops on this one." She said many ministers have reached out to their U.S. counterparts, and added that she spoke on Friday morning with Kirsten Hillman, Canada's ambassador to the U.S.

Freeland didn't respond directly to questions about possible retaliatory measures Canada may consider, but said she spoke Thursday night with United States Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and emphasized that Canadian doctors and nurses living in Windsor cross the U.S. border daily to work in Detroit. "Our government … is prepared to do whatever it takes to defend the national interest," she said. Ontario Premier Doug Ford has also spoken with Lighthizer about the issue.

Freeland said Canada has enough supplies for the moment, but will need more in the coming days. An official working for Procurement Minister Anita Anand confirmed to POLITICO that Canada has placed orders for more than 65 million N95 masks, but would not say how many were to come from 3M, nor how many other suppliers Canada has approached. The official said Anand spoke with the head of 3M Canada Friday morning, but would not confirm whether the company will still fill Canadian orders.

The news comes as Ottawa tries to ramp up domestic production of medical supplies to fight the coronavirus, including masks, ventilators and test kits, in the face of growing global demand for the supplies. However, Canada currently does not produce N95 masks, and there are no immediate plans to start manufacturing the respirators domestically.

The official said 11 million surgical and N95 masks were delivered across Canada this week, including N95 masks manufactured in China.

On Thursday, the Trump administration invoked the Defense Production Act to demand more N95 respirators from 3M, and the White House has cited concerns that not enough of 3M’s global production is coming back to the U.S. In a tweet Thursday evening, U.S. President Donald Trump said the White House “hit 3M hard today after seeing what they were doing with their Masks” and said the company “will have a big price to pay!”

But the company says it has been working since the start of the pandemic to ramp up mask production. In an interview with CNBC, 3M CEO Mike Roman said the company doubled production in January, long before there were demands for more supplies in the U.S. “The narrative we aren’t doing everything we can as a company is just not true,” he said.

In the news release, 3M said the White House has asked the company to increase the number of respirators it imports from overseas operations into the U.S. “We appreciate the assistance of the administration to do exactly that,” the company said.

美國紐約時間 2020年4月3日 夜幕降臨
美國已確認感染人數:275586


作者: deckeredi    時間: 2020-4-4 11:37 AM

大陸的大外宣不斷被人家打臉
其他國家都是自己花錢買的
作者: a7771340    時間: 2020-4-4 12:26 PM

現在川普不搶貨 他選舉不用選了
川普就是個生意人 現在又有政治的小丑角色
你覺得他能不搶嗎 他屢次發言與他的衛生官員不符合互相牴觸
跟州長腳色對立  再這樣下去 他直接退選今年的大選

作者: 小松松1    時間: 2020-4-4 01:15 PM

錢都沒付,說不上搶你的貨
作者: yanyanmylove    時間: 2020-4-4 05:05 PM

那個法國人不知道在說什麼耶
經濟上沒損失
但是沒有拿到口罩啊
防疫還是有缺口就會造成後續的經濟損失啊
講得不痛不癢的

作者: ap267b    時間: 2020-4-4 05:33 PM

看看最近的新聞
應該再加一項驗貨ok才付款
作者: xeno-2007    時間: 2020-4-5 10:11 PM

本帖最後由 xeno-2007 於 2020-4-5 10:13 PM 編輯

英國廣播公司(BBC)引述 德國柏林州內政部長Andreas Geisel所說,本來從中國大陸運送20萬個FFP2防疫口罩回德國,供柏林警方使用,但在泰國轉機時,卻被美國攔途截劫了。

Andreas Geisel斥責美國不遵守國際貿易規則,形容這種攔途截劫行為是Modern Piracy

痛罵Trump是山賊/海盜的人太多,大家都習以為常了!

Coronavirus: US accused of ‘piracy’ over mask ‘confiscation’

The US has been accused of redirecting 200,000 Germany-bound masks for its own use, in a move condemned as "modern piracy".

The local government in Berlin said the shipment of US-made masks was "confiscated" in Bangkok.

The FFP2 masks, which were ordered by Berlin's police force, did not reach their destination, it said.

Andreas Geisel, Berlin's interior minister, said the masks were presumably diverted to the US.

The US company that makes the masks, 3M, has been prohibited from exporting its medical products to other countries under a Korean-War-era law invoked by President Donald Trump.

He said US authorities had taken custody of nearly 200,000 N95 respirators, 130,000 surgical masks and 600,000 gloves. He did not say where they were taken into US hands.

Mr Geisel said the diversion of masks from Berlin amounted to an "act of modern piracy", urging the Trump administration to adhere to international trading rules.

"This is not how you deal with transatlantic partners," the minister said. "Even in times of global crisis, there should be no wild-west methods."

A 'treasure hunt' for masks
Mr Geisel's comments echo the sentiments of other European officials, who have complained about the buying and diversion practices of the US.

In France, for example, regional leaders say they are struggling to secure medical supplies as American buyers outbid them.

The president of the Île-de-France region, Valérie Pécresse, compared the scramble for masks to a "treasure hunt".

"I found a stock of masks that was available and Americans - I'm not talking about the American government - but Americans, outbid us," Ms Pécresse said. "They offered three times the price and they proposed to pay up-front."

As the coronavirus pandemic worsens, demand for crucial medical supplies, such as masks and respirators, has surged worldwide.

Earlier this week, the World Health Organization (WHO) said it was considering changing its guidance on whether people should wear face masks in public.

At present, the WHO advises that masks do not provide sufficient protection from infection to justify mass usage. But some countries have taken a different view, including the US.

On Friday, Mr Trump announced that the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) will now recommend that Americans use non-medical, cloth face coverings to help prevent the spread of the virus.

The US has 273,880 recorded cases of Covid-19, the highest number in the world by a large margin.

Covid-19, the disease caused by coronavirus, has affected more than one million people and killed almost 60,000 globally, the latest figures show.

'Significant humanitarian implications'
In a separate development, 3M said the Trump administration had asked it to stop exporting US-made N95 respirator masks to Canada and Latin America.

The request had "significant humanitarian implications", the company warned, and could prompt other countries to act in kind.

The company says it manufactures about 100 million N95 masks per month - about a third are made in the US, and the rest produced overseas.

President Trump said he had used the Defence Production Act to "hit 3M hard", without providing additional details. The law dates back to 1950 and allows a president to force companies to make products for national defence.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told reporters on Friday that "it would be a mistake to create blockages or reduce trade".

美國紐約時間 2020年4月5日 早上
美國已確認感染人數:312245




作者: xingcg1219    時間: 2020-4-5 10:13 PM

法國人要慶幸美國買走了強國人的口罩,要不然現在最嚴重的國家就是法國了。
作者: gogosp    時間: 2020-4-5 11:08 PM

我個人的意見現在世界各國為了搶口罩使出渾身解數,反觀台灣口罩不斷擴大產能,盡量滿足民眾需求呀!
作者: zz123484    時間: 2020-4-5 11:36 PM

買中國口罩
要運氣瑕疵品很多
戴了也不知道有沒
防疫效果
作者: gaisuke155    時間: 2020-4-6 12:02 AM


跟台灣買吧

小英會很樂意說自己夠用的
作者: tima4455    時間: 2020-4-6 12:44 PM

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作者: ckckndu    時間: 2020-4-6 02:37 PM

那些都是不合格的啦...胸罩口罩...就讓給美國啦...
作者: skywalker319    時間: 2020-4-6 08:36 PM

歐美現在開始搶口罩
之前怎麼都不生產呢
作者: swmp    時間: 2020-4-6 10:29 PM

美國急了 中國賺了 法國還在自欺欺人
作者: mmxmmxmmx    時間: 2020-4-6 11:19 PM

看起來口罩大戰法國被美國幹走的那批口罩是法國認敗了,夠慘
作者: poolaiusdd    時間: 2020-4-7 09:01 AM

美國要搶你能不給!!
想想中東
不過美國會不會付錢又是另一回事了
作者: brianbrian    時間: 2020-4-7 11:02 AM

在中國生產,不見得就是中國品牌,美國能搶,是因為那是美國品牌,3M。
作者: 7-moon    時間: 2020-4-8 08:57 AM

現在的事實處境就是:不管你品質是不是合格,有總比沒有好

你要貨到付款,別人拿現金先把貨吃下來,在商言商本來就很常見。
作者: 賢狼赫蘿    時間: 2020-4-8 12:59 PM

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作者: penny892369    時間: 2020-4-8 01:28 PM

貨到付款也是有風險吧,你不可能每批都驗吧...
作者: Jamiehao    時間: 2020-4-8 03:42 PM

搶中國口罩劣質品
不如用武器跟台灣換口罩還來得好一些
作者: zwxyzxxx0256    時間: 2020-4-8 03:43 PM

再次證明了一件事,製造業是非常重要的一個經濟環節,當歐美把大部分低成本的製造業外移
就已經輸了一半
作者: 73080037    時間: 2020-4-8 04:01 PM

口罩現在人人都缺.......
尤其疫情嚴重的地方.....
有口罩真的就會用搶的0.0
作者: MWWANG343    時間: 2020-4-8 04:48 PM

口罩生產商作夢也想不到會有這一天!
作者: hjcyy    時間: 2020-4-8 07:18 PM

總有一種感覺是...
法國表示說沒關係,貨到付款,錢我們也沒損失,就等下一批好惹!!
美國老大有急用就先讓給他們好吧!
(含著淚說)


作者: altairng    時間: 2020-4-8 10:55 PM

有的物資是送的,因為送的不夠,接下來很多物資都是買的,搞清楚這點就好,不然某些人一直在那里只說買的部分,最后再來渾水摸魚把送的也改成買的

中國在生化病毒方面研究的確是比老美差,這方面是沒法否認的,既然是比較差,那麼又怎麼指望防疫產品會比別人好呢?
作者: hsuamwang    時間: 2020-4-8 11:21 PM

現在感覺做口罩能發財了,希望未來不要有人刻意製造病毒來發財,一手放毒一手賣解藥
作者: zerochiang    時間: 2020-4-9 12:50 PM


以前戴著口罩搶錢
現在拿錢去搶口罩

作者: jl0329    時間: 2020-4-9 04:56 PM

注意喔,中國出產的只有千分之三的良率,很可怕
作者: saxon496    時間: 2020-4-9 06:07 PM

中國製 糾感心,保證你買到爛東西 笑死我了
作者: Lucy256    時間: 2020-4-9 11:23 PM

現在就價高者得,已無法了。


作者: b6310823    時間: 2020-4-9 11:32 PM

美國要打八國聯軍了嗎?
作者: sesiru106    時間: 2020-4-9 11:46 PM

既然美國開始搶購大陸口罩了,那千萬別剛拿到就抱怨品質不良或者其他問題,不然大陸不滿不賣美國那美國人民可就慘了.
作者: i1040700    時間: 2020-4-10 01:45 PM

我從很久一前就覺得美國根本不是世界警察而是流氓
作者: gogosp    時間: 2020-4-10 02:09 PM

我個人的意見台灣也可以賣口罩給其他國家,不要再免費贈送給別國呀!
作者: lilacq    時間: 2020-4-10 09:49 PM

全世界的現代海盜名非川普莫屬 . . .

作者: yaopee    時間: 2020-4-11 12:04 AM

美國這次真的很慘
全力把責任都推給中國
模糊自己處理不好的焦點





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